373 | Rabbi Lapin: Knowing Peace in a Restless World

373 | Rabbi Lapin: Knowing Peace in a Restless World

All of the world has been affected in some way by the pandemic; it’s an event we have all gone through. We’re trying to find the rhythm again for both success and peace.

I had the honor of interviewing Rabbi Daniel Lapin on these exact issues. He has incredible wisdom and advice for us as we learn together where we need to place ourselves in these times.

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Welcome to the Chris LoCurto show where we discuss leadership and life and discover that business is what you do, not who you are.

Welcome to the show. Folks. We hope you are having a fantastic day. Today. We have got a very special guest on the show. Somebody who, we have loved to have on the Chris LoCurto Show multiple times, for those of you that have been to our Next Level Leadership Live Event, you’ve gotten to see Rabbi speak there for those of you that follow me from back in the day days, obviously you’ve been able to see a Rabbi Daniel Lapin, who is just a mentor of mine and a phenomenal human being. So let me just kind of read and tell you about Rabbi Daniel Lapin. Rabbi Daniel Lapin is known widely as America’s Rabbi; is a noted rabbinic scholar, best selling author and TV host. As one of America’s most eloquent speakers, his ability to extract practical life principles from the Bible and transmit them in a life changing and captivating manner has brought thousands of Jews and Christians closer to their respective faiths, pairing his inheritance as a descendant of a multigenerational rabbinic family, and his background in science and business. He teaches ancient Jewish wisdom in an unparalleled manner. All of that sounds fantastic, but let me tell you,

Well, my mom wrote it, so it should be.

Getting to know rabbi Daniel Lapin is a phenomenal treat and, uh, you know, so rabbi welcome to the show, my friend. So good to have you here again with you.

It’s so good to be here again, Chris, it’s been a while.

Yeah, it has been too long. We got a chance to catch up and talk about, uh, we had a phenomenal trip to Israel and all that kind of stuff, and just is, it’s just great catching back up with you. Uh, you’ve been on the East coast now for gosh, how many years? Three, four, five years. Three or four years. Yeah. How is it? What are you, how are you experiencing it?

Until the recent drama, we traveled a great deal. So it didn’t make a whole lot of difference whether we traveling out of one place or another, but where we prefer the West coast for a variety of reasons. But, um, first of all, most of our family are on the East coast. So that was a big factor. And secondly, um, you know, California, Oregon, and Washington are basically going crazy at the moment and it’s just, it’s hard to be around people who are taking leave of their senses. So, uh, we’re, we’re more comfortable right now where we are well.

And that’s one of the reasons why we wanted you to, to be on the show is to talk through this. And if there’s anybody who is so grounded in what’s going on, uh, and what’s happening in the world. I love as you talk about happening in the world today on your show and explaining why things are happening, I wanted you to come on and give that perspective to folks and kind of hear because there’s so much fear.

And we were talking about this in our meeting today about how fear is a gateway to panic and fear is faithlessness in God and it’s, it’s not trusting in God. So there’s so much that we, as Christians, as Jews could be looking at and freaking out on if we wanted to, uh, and a lot of our listeners, we have both, we have a large number of listeners that are Christian and then a percentage of people that would consider themselves atheist or agnostic. So we just want to kind of run through all this stuff and, and get wisdom from you on this. So first off, what is going on? What is going on in our world, our crazy world right now?

Well, I want to answer this in a way that will be most helpful to business professionals. And I regard you as a business professional if you care about your money period. You might be an employee of a national coffee chain. I don’t want to mention the name cause I don’t think they advertise or sponsor the show. Do they, Chris? No. Well then their name will remain unspoken, but if you’re an employee of a national coffee chain, I want you to stop thinking of yourself as an employee and start thinking of yourself as being in business for yourself. Now, right now you have only one customer, namely and unnamed national coffee chain. And it’s always a little perilous for a company to be dependent on only one customer. So you definitely want to be thinking of changing that, but you are your own independent professional business person. You are an entrepreneur and it doesn’t matter when technically you’re an employee or you’re a business owner. It’s all the same. And so addressing anybody who sees himself or herself as a business professional, I think it’s really important not to get overwhelmed by these events. Now you might say, well, it’s very easy to say, not to be overwhelmed, but, um, but wait a moment. A lot of the overwhelming is in your head. The fact is you’re alive. I bet you even had breakfast this morning.

You’re functioning proceed, forward, march onwards and upwards. Um, it’s very easy to become paralyzed by events, but be aware that what’s happening is in your head, not anywhere else. And what I think is so important to keep in mind, um, is that for folks who are Bible enthusiasts, then you know, we have that in common for folks who are not, it doesn’t matter. Um, I once had a conversation with Mario Andretti, the racing driver, a very, um, very, very valuable from a business point of view. I was interviewing from a business point of view. Now you might’ve said, well, what’s the point? You know, how many clients do you have, who are racing car drivers? Well, none, but it doesn’t matter because when you learn a timeless principle when you learn anything that is true and applicable, it doesn’t matter whether it comes from a racing car driver or from the Bible. It just doesn’t. But, um, but on, on this particular point for me, it’s a very critical verse. When the Bible says that God put Adam in the Garden of Eden, the next word is to relax. No, it doesn’t, I’m lying. That’s not true.

I was going to say, he said the work. I was like, where’s he going with that?

He, he put Adam in the garden of Eden to work and the garden of Eden is essentially your Garden of Eden your life. My garden of Eden is my life. The metaphor carries through very effectively. So no, uh, the actually interestingly enough, in the Lord’s language, in Hebrew, there actually is no word for relax at all. Doesn’t exist. Uh, in the same way, there is no word for adolescence. The general principle is words that don’t exist in biblical Hebrew are false concepts. Adolescents, think about an adolescent is what is somebody who wants you to give him all the benefits and advantages of being grown-up while retaining all the privileges of being a kid? That’s what an adolescent. We don’t see that right now in the world. And so, yeah, we’re not, we don’t acknowledge the existence of the ad. Relax. It’s not a word it’s, it’s nothing that should be within the human experience.

Well, what about when I retire? You might say, no, there’s no word for retirement either. And I’ve written extensively and spoken in some of my video lessons about the danger of even thinking in terms of retirement. You know, it was even if you’re 25 years old and you’re thinking of retiring and retiring in 40 years time, even thinking about that, even having it as one of your subconscious goals is actually damaging to your work right now, there is no word in Hebrew for retirement, either family enough. So when will I relax? You might ask. And the answer is when you’re dead, plenty time then, but until then, uh, no. So the notion that they were ever smooth waters and calm sailing for extended periods of time, it’s simply not. So there is always something turbulent going on, if not in your life, then in mine, if not in your country, then in mine.

And right now it so happens that, um, the, the COVID-19 situation is, is happening around the world. Um, again, everyone has their own opinion. Mine is that the hazard and damage caused by the government reaction is considerably worse than anything the virus itself ever inflicted. So, bearing that in mind and certainly using Jewish ancient Jewish wisdom principles, this is as good a time to expand your business as any other. You’ve just got to be alert to what the meaning of business is, which is namely finding a way to provide things that God’s other children need or want.

Absolutely. Uh, we were talking about this, you know, I, for me having come out of ministry back in the late nineties and everything, and you and I have known each other for geez, almost 20 years, it’s been a long time. Uh, I’ve done events here, events with Dave, all that kind of stuff. Uh, one of the profound pieces is one you and I were talking, um, like 15 years ago or so. And you helped me to see that a word in the Bible actually had two meanings of something that we highly teach, especially Christians. And we always say, but it doesn’t mean this. And you’re like, Nope, that absolutely does mean that. That piece sparked something in me all these years that I have been pursuing more the, that middle Eastern, under that Jewish understand that hebraic heritage, uh, understanding in the process. Um, so it’s so important to me that for our listeners, that they’re hearing the ancient Jewish wisdom, because it is so profound in life. One of the things that you said recently, and I just loved it because we always talk here, when we’re doing Next Level Life, we talk about feelings versus facts, um, or intellect versus emotion. And one of the things you said was feelings banish facts. And I absolutely loved you saying that because it is such a powerful way of, of getting that smack upside the head that so many times, as you say, it’s in my head, I am, my feelings are overriding the actual facts and the situation. So what advice do you have for living in, you know, with where the world is today?

Yes. Feelings do banish facts. And one of the best pieces of evidence for that, I think is something that almost everybody knows. If I ask you, have You ever known a man who got himself into bad shape because of an ill-advised relationship with a woman? Ever heard of such a thing happening, right. I may have experienced it. And you know, it’s almost all of us know, at least one man who got involved with a woman that he shouldn’t have got involved with. And if his parents didn’t advise him against and then friends did, but he went for it anyway. And you only have to ask yourself, what was the operating motivation- facts or feelings? Was he open to any of the facts about her? No, he didn’t want to know. He didn’t care to know. Uh, he was operating entirely on his feelings and, uh, and of course that is dangerous. And so similarly when we allow feelings of fear to overwhelm us and it’s, it’s very easy and very, very common, um, in again, in the laws language, in Hebrew, the word fear has an opposite.

It’s very interesting. Cause what would you think is the opposite of fear, calmness tranquility? No, no, that’s just a neutral state. The opposite of fear is pushing forward. Okay. So that tells us that the main problem with fear is a paralyzing effect. That is what fear does. And you’ll, you know, when I say deer in the headlights, uh, that, that look comes from the paralysis that flows from utter fear and terror and, and that has an effect on each and every one of us. So the opportunities that lie evident within your own business, the opportunities and the potential, uh, very often remains invisible to you because of fear. And so I, you know, I strongly recommend, and, and everybody I coach has been working on this assiduously, uh, which is, um, just, you’ve got to get past this here, the coronavirus, um, you know, it’s, uh, I’m not going to take the time in our short conversation now to go into the, the ways to do that.

I cover that in my financial prosperity collection, um, because there are so many different examples of fear that, uh, that I knew I had to give a unit on getting rid of it. Sometimes it’s healthier. Sometimes it’s just, you know, financial fear just strikes carrying to the heart of a business professional and stops her from functioning or stops him from functioning. So very important to stop thinking in terms of feelings, but function in terms of facts. And if you look at the facts of this thing, um, you realize, you know what, it’s probably not going to get you.

It really isn’t. Uh, but again, you don’t need me to walk you through that. Take a little time yourselves and, uh, and, and focus on fact banish feeling down to not feeling into conversation, stick strictly to facts, ask yourself if this is truly so dangerous. Um, why is it that protestors were allowed to flung flock into the street in huge crowds, with not a single attempt to monitor their social distancing? Obviously this is truly a public health crisis that kind of would have been effective. So then you got to say, well, if it’s not really a public health crisis, why are they doing it? And here again, I have two very good answers. I’m not sure I want to give them now since people once again, I move into the political arena and they’re nothing you can figure out for yourselves, basically follow the money and the power.

Just remember that who benefits from all this sphere who benefits and you’ll figure it out, why the government is behaving the way it is over the coronavirus. Really, these are not reasons for us to become paralyzed, their reasons for us to figure out new opportunities. New ways of functioning is I think everybody knows ecommerce has climbed meteorically, uh, during the first quarter of 2020 huge climb, obviously. Right? Great opportunity for people who well positioned, if you weren’t well positioned, there’s some lessons to be learned, right? This is gonna pause, not going to last forever. When it pauses may be one of the lessons you have to learn is cash reserves.

Yeah. I think that’s been one of the things that as we’ve gone through the downturn, I’m so proud of our clients and a lot of the people that follow us as well. As soon as this happened, we went into let’s help our clients out mode. And the very first thing we hit was the fear piece. We are not going to be fearful in this. We are going to trust in God. He has our best interest at heart. And we, we pounded the fear thing, very first thing. And then we went into how to start taking a look at, you know, take advantage of the situation you’re in. How do you make smart decisions? You know, what do you do? We went through all of this stuff to help all of our clients and talk to them about this and overwhelmingly, uh, now we had some people that were in industries that the industry shut down completely. And they’re like, there’s nothing I can do there, but everybody else, we had response after response, after response of people going, “Chris, we’ve been following this stuff for the longest time and it works. And so we’re good. We’re working in a good place”. And so like when you talk about the cash reserves and, you know, and making smart decisions in the future, it’s amazing. One of the things I talked about, I did a show about this probably a couple of months ago of how many business owners, how many business leaders have been through two economic downturns and are still not in that place of making smart financial decisions of having those kinds, you know, “Oh, you know that stuff’s behind us. I don’t have to worry about that. Things are going to be great”. Moving forward, here we are again. And it’s, it’s painful, uh, as somebody who has just an altruistic heart to help to see those that are like, “Nope, we’re doing it. We’re making the right decisions. We’re following the stuff that rabbi teaches. You know, we got our finances in order”. And those folks that have been like, “you know, I just didn’t think it was going to come back around like this that’s, that’s so painful in that process”. This is a unprecedented time.

I don’t really think it is Chris you’ll pardon me. And I may be wrong. So I’ll definitely hear, hear what you’re saying, but, um, I really don’t think it is, uh, if different people, different times, this happens to be unusual in that it impacts that guy, the other guy, his brother, and me, whereas that always, isn’t always true, but it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is you care about your business, your right to care about your business. And so, for instance, you know, if, if you worked for Sears, a job with Sears was a fantastic job. If you were a, any kind of employee, all the way up to the C suite in Sears, you were in very, in very, very good shape, right? Until the eighties. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden you have the faint, if your ears to the ground, and you are as alert as you ought to be in business, uh, all of a sudden you become aware, wait a second, this isn’t so good.

Well with frightening rapidity, your employee is dashed to the ground and your streets. Uh, this was true for IBM in the, in the nineties and a little bit earlier, even IBM ran the world of computing. There was a period IBM was making over 90% of all the profits being made in America, in computing, and then a college dropout called Bill Gates puts a computer on everybody’s desk. And all of a sudden, if you work for IBM, you’re in big trouble because IBM drops 40,000 employees, right. And, and some finally some desperate work, um, on the part of the guy who they finally brought in to clean up the mess, at IBM, realized that to totally change, building massive, hard core frames, um, that that’s no longer a business that makes sense and added into services and so on and so forth. So, uh, there has never been a time of no turbulence. So I must say, I moved away from the idea that this is unprecedented. I will grow into this from an epidemiological point of view. It might be unprecedented, although you could even go back a hundred years to 1918, um, from a political point of view. Yeah. But every year in politics, nothing in politics repeats itself. So, um, but from a business point of view, I’m sorry, big deal. This sort of thing happens all the time in one way or another in one place or another impacting one group of people or another. Bottom line is the system God designed for human economic interaction is that you have to be constantly obsessed with finding ways to please God’s out of children. You do that. You’ll be fine. That’s all you got to do.

Absolutely. So here’s what I was thinking. Push back on me on this, that for the family, this is a different situation where we’ve now got parents working from home. We have parents being teachers. We have, you know, like you say, we’re really not seeing different. We’ve seen ups and downs and turns and all kinds of crap. How do you lead your family? Is it different? Is it not different? Is it the, you know, how do you, how do you tell somebody to lead their family during this time right now?

Well, there, there are two old English expressions. One of them, “Every cloud has a silver lining.” And there’s another one that says “An ill wind blows no good.” And, uh, I have spoken, and again, this is anecdotal, but I read a lot. I talk to a lot of people. Um, I, I’ve got my finger on the pulse of, uh, family and finance in the country. And I am absolutely convinced that farmer families have benefited from the last few months than have been hurt by it provided the, you got the economic stuff tied down. You’re basically in survival mode, you’re coping, you’re managing. If that’s the case, the odds are that from a family perspective, this has been an eye opener to you. We know families that have had so called problem children. They’ve had children on Adderall and Ritalin. Uh, they’ve had children with behavioral problems. I’ve had children with those kinds of issues. Guess what? Being around the parents, 24/7 has worked wonders. Maybe that’s actually the way God designed the family in the first place. Maybe not every child is best served by spending the major part of its waking hours in a GIC. Do you know what a GIC is? What do you say, government?

The government indoctrination camp that used to be called public schools may not be for every child and lots and lots and lots of families, certainly lots and lots of parents are rediscovering that they actually like their children, which they weren’t thinking that way before. They love their children because that’s a biological reality, but they didn’t like their children. And now they’re learning to like their children and their children are nice to people. So that’s happening a lot. I don’t have numbers. I don’t think anyone has numbers, but, uh, I have a deep sense based on my own experience and the anecdotal interactions, a deep sense that at least if not more families have benefited from the sports togetherness, then have been harmed by it.

Yeah. I think we helped out our, our younger families on the team because the big struggle was how do I work from home, teach my kids, love my spouse, get the other things done, you know, the work that needs to be done around the house, all that. And I think one of the things we put in really quickly as, Hey, let’s, let’s break up your day and here’s how it should look and take the kids out. And it’s been phenomenal to say it was very painful for a lot of folks, but I think you’re spot on.

It’s a method. That’s exactly right. The, the tool is a notebook and a schedule and you work it out, but yes, of course. Um, and you know, in, in business, I’m sure this happened to you, but, uh, I’ve had, uh, zoom meetings with vendors and suppliers where kids wandering in the middle or a spouse pops into the screen and says, I’ve just got an urgent question”. We live in the real world. That’s fine.

That’s exactly it. But I think, you know, like you’re saying, and you teach how important community is and how important that closeness is. And, and I, I agree. I think you’re, we’re seeing families recognize that they are a greater unit than the GIC’s you know, that instead of your kids to the gig and, you know, and I love that you call it that, um, then sending your kids out away from you, that being together, which is the way God intended it, you know, for us to be that family unit has been so powerful for them.

I think it’s also encouraged parents to, um, involve their children in the real life world. Uh, when you pop your children onto the, the yellow bus to the GIC every morning, and then by the time you get them back in the afternoon, somebody else has had their best hours. They come home tired and hungry and grumbly and whiny, uh, the, the values inculcated in the GIC are not those of giving and sacrifice, but their entitlement and taking and rights. And, um, and so now where you actually have an opportunity to imprint yourself on your children, instead of coping with the imprint that is imparted by the GIC, it’s a wonderful opportunity to rebuild your family. I know many, many, many families who never would’ve dreamed of homeschooling. I was just going to ask you that question. Six months ago, but are now asking themselves, are we really going to re-enroll our children in school? They’re serious about it.

Yeah. If I had little ones today, there’s no possible way I would do it any other way. I would. Nothing but homeschooling. Um, yeah. Did you guys do, I don’t remember. We talked about this years ago, but I don’t remember that year. Did you guys experience both with your kids?

Did you do homescholling? Did we experienced both?

Yeah. Did you do homeschooling and public school or?

Um, we did a private school. We never, we never use GIC’s, but we use private schools until our oldest was 10 years old, so that’s not a lot of school experience. Right. But then we switched over to homeschooling from then and, um, and never went back.

I believe it, I believe it,

Yeah, not a single one of our children ever actually never attended high school or anything like that. Um, one of them did a lot of college at home as well. Uh, he became a physician recently, so he didn’t do too badly. And, um, and they all did just fine.

Awesome. So we’re big proponents of, of, you know, also sharing our faith. Um, again, like I say, we have a lot of folks that are listening to this most would say that they’re believers. Um, and we have a lot of folks that listen to us and know that we know that they’re not believers and we’re still gonna share our faith. We’re still gonna share good information, um, period.

How do we get more God into our everyday lives? And so in the light of what we’re experiencing or in the light of having that family time now, what are suggestions that you have for people to get more God into their everyday life?

I hesitate only because I know we only have another 10 or 15 minutes or so. And the question you ask is, is huge. It even, even would need to have as part of that discussion. Um, should we be doing that? Let me, let me explain, let’s assume that, you know, you’re an uncontrollably, enthusiastic fan, um, of a musician. Maybe it’s a popular musician, maybe it’s a classical composer. Um, you know, whether it’s the monkeys or Mozart, but there’s some musician out there that, that, you know, the, The Beach Boys or Beethoven, it doesn’t matter, but whatever it is, um, there’s some musician you are really, and if you actually had a choice, one of those questions, you know, who would you like to spend an evening having dinner with? Well, it would be that person, but that’s not possible. So if you really, really feel a desperate desire to be close to that person, which is what fan bases are, you know, when, uh, uh, when people go crazy at a concert, when the, when the beloved, um, idol or star or celebrity walks onto the screen, it’s because everybody loves him or her, and they just want to be close to him or her.

Well, when you can’t physically be close to him or her either, cause they no longer around or cause they don’t care to have dinner with you, um, either way, the, the only way to achieve that, then it’s a wonderful way to achieve it because you get pretty close to the real thing is, uh, you become absolutely passionately committed to getting to know their work.

And so you end up, you end up, um, loving the music of the person you love. And you love the creator, that music even more, because you got to know his music and you listen to the music and you can talk about the music and you enjoy it. Uh, or if it’s art, you know, if there’s, if there’s particular painter, there are people travel across the world to spend a day at an art gallery because it has a particular painting, that is a wonderful example of the work of that particular artist. And they just, they, they get to know it. Well, if you, if you think about male, female attraction, right? It’s mystery of the human experience. And you just dwell for a moment on the infatuation. A man has for a woman and vice versa. You will see that what’s really going on. And, and this is very subconscious. This is as true for a, an atheist. I mean, I’ve had these kinds of conversations with some very wonderful, brilliant atheists. One of them is the magician Penn Jillette who I started off by getting to know his work very well, but then I got to know him as well. And, and I was, I was blessed through that, but this conversation is true for everybody. And that is on the deepest, most subconscious level. Our most urgent desire is to get close to God.

Now, one of the things that’s difficult about being an atheist is that that desire is there. And yet it is being intellectually suppressed and it can find no out. And by the way, there, there are difficulties and challenges about being a God-fearing Bible-believing person also. Life is full of challenges, and it’s not as if the athiest is unique or anything, but his particular challenge is the fact that his soul is calling for a closer contact with God and his mind is saying that’s impossible. And so what all of us do in exactly the same way that the fan of the Beatles or The Beach Boys or the, uh, or anybody, uh, you get to know somebody else. Now you’ve known that in the Bible every now and then, uh, in place of a specific word for a intimate, physical relationship between a man and a woman, the Bible uses, “and he knew her”.

Now, a lot of people thought that that’s just a polite euphemism because the Bible doesn’t want to use more vulgar words. So he knew her, but it isn’t a euphemism at all. The Bible doesn’t go in for euphemisms. It is literal. In other words, what is the most profound way you can ever get to know God’s ultimate handiwork. Now, a lot of this desire is created for people who love hiking and mountain climbing and oceans. And because you, you’re experiencing huge uplift from interacting closely with me, creative output, the work of Him, whom you love. And so it’s very satisfying, but God’s ultimate work is the human being. And so you get to know another human being in a biblical sense, that whole thrill, that whole desire, that whole deep pleasure, that results from that is strictly, the consequence are realizing that you are coming close to He whocreated her. So in the same way, then I’m bringing God into one’s life, I think is, and again, you know, you’re talking about yourself, your family, or your business there. Then there are different strategies and techniques for every specific situation. And I talk about these, but, uh, but in general, uh, speaking about an awareness of God’s work in those, just a conversation, right? And we’ve recommended this for families, we’ve produced several books that are basically dinner table conversations. And so one of the conversations, just to give you an example of what I’m talking about, you might say to your children at the dinner table, uh, what is a more beautiful Creation of God, a city skyline or a bird’s nest?

Well, for that matter, a waterfall, or for that matter, the Grand Canyon and people have been conditioned today to venerate nature, right? And to disparage the work of man. And so we have a conversation really. So you think the Grand Canyon or the waterfall is a greater expression of the Creator? I don’t think so because those things could have happened completely naturally, you run enough water down a river long enough, and you’ll get a waterfall. It might take 10,000 years, but there’ll be a waterfall. Um, you know, The Grand Canyon will happen. I mean, if you put a river in the Sahara desert and come back in a thousand years, there’ll be a Grand Canyon there and it’s very straight forward. Uh, but a city skyline. Now there’s something interesting. So at least it’s a conversation, but, uh, you know, I think it’s always important not to you know, be likely a, the sheriff who puts, puts notches on his gun in the old Western.

Um, and I don’t want to sound callous about this, but I do say it. And I say to people all the time, look, I am a Bible believer. I don’t believe God exists. I know He exists, but I’ve spent more years than you have. I would say to somebody working on this. So I’ve got way beyond belief, beliefs, relatively easy- knowledge is different. So I know, but I am not impelled by the desire to make you be where I am, if you want to be, if you want to be, I’m happy to help, but don’t think that I get a kick out of everybody. I bring to the Lord. I really don’t, you know, good luck to you, enjoy your life. Um, I, I really don’t mind and I, as you do, Chris, I will help him bring, uh, what benefits I can to my customers or my clients, regardless of where they are, whether they’re Muslims or Christians or Jews, or non-believer, it doesn’t really matter to me. Yeah,

Absolutely. All right. Switching gears here a little bit, because one of the, you know, it was Thou Shall Prosper, your first best selling book.

Uh, my first book was, uh, America’s Real Wall.

Okay. Uh, and then, so Thou Shall Prosper was the first book that I,

Yeah. Then Business Secrets from the Bible. And then we did a 10 hour video course called the Financial Prosperity Collection, which by the way, uh, for 48 hours from the time people hear this show, uh, they are able to get at a huge discount by going to my website at rabbidaniellapin.com and buying the Financial Prosperity Collection. You can either get it as a download by which case you have a tonight, uh, or you can have it mailed to you and it’ll come in in the form of a USB that you plug into your computer. But, um, here’s the best part. If you put in Chris’s last name, put in LoCurto and get a huge discount for the next 48 hours on that particular product, because that really provides a fantastic way of getting through all the basic important, critical material in ancient Jewish wisdom on increasing revenue. Yeah.

This is something that, and we’re going to put all the links, but if you just go to, uh, like rabbis said the website and obviously get the discount, use the code LoCurto, this is so important. I’ve known this ever since first reading your book, uh, you know, I’ve known this for a long time, again, almost 20 years now. Uh, and you talk about this so much. So to give perspective to this, one of the things I love that you talked about as the Jewish people are less than I’m gonna, I’m gonna screw the numbers up, but I’m really close less than 3% of the population, but 74% of the Forbes 400 am I close?

Um, you’re very close. It’s actually Jews, are one and a half percent of America’s population. And usually about 40 to 60% of the Forbes 400. Okay.

And then one of the great things that you shared with me is the amount of GDP by people. I’d love for you to talk about this. And the reason why this is so important is because the wisdom in the Financial Prosperity Collection that you have is so powerful. And so it’s not just beneficial. It stinking works. I mean, the stuff that you teach has always worked. It works, it’s ancient Jewish wisdom. It’s the stuff that, you know, you point to over and over again, this isn’t something that you just came up with and all of a sudden, Hey, you have some stats. This is information that has centuries of backing. Every single time the Jews were in captivity, they have, they have come out prosperous. There’s so much information, but I love the information on how much GDP is created by different nations and stuff. So speak to all of that.

Well, what’s so fascinating is that, uh, uh, within a homogenous population, GDP is proportional to the number of people, which makes sense, right? If we were operating within one economy, the more of us that are working the more is the aggregate total economic value produced. So, um, in the United States of America, GDP is, on a, on an individual basis. In other words, what I’m trying to say is that, um, somebody you’re an average worker in California is kind of producing the same economic values and economic as an average work in Vermont or in Florida, uh, minor fluctuations. And these things are not easy to measure, but basically you’re operating within the United States of America, basically a homogenous region. So within that regions make sense. Rhode Island has one eight, the population of Georgia, just for instance. So if you look at the gross economic creativity of Georgia and Rhode Island, Georgia has an eight times GDP over Rhode Island, which is exactly what you’d expect.

And Israel, there’s 5 million Jews. And if you look at the full continuous nations around Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, there are a hundred million people. So it’s 20 times the population and you would expect, uh, their GDP in total to be 20 times that of Israel, but it’s not the same. So that means the average Israeli is outperforming the average Muslim by a factor of 20, 20 times more effective. Uh, what is that? You know, it’s not, it’s not because he’s circumcised. It’s not because he’s more intelligent. It’s not, it’s only because he has access to the ancient Jewish wisdom. And, um, and the, the, the proof is that every time this has been made, be made accessible in general to many people, uh, it makes those people more economically effective. So in other words, I don’t know of a more effective thing. I would rather have, 20 tips from ancient Jewish wisdom than a master of business administration from Harvard.

If my, if goal is to get a high paying job in a company, I’ll take the MBA. If my goal is to be independent and make money, I’d rather have 20 tips from ancient Jewish wisdom. There’s no question about it. And you can see the, uh, the effectiveness of that in the sense that countries that have adopted these, uh, these principles are much more effective in countries that haven’t, you know, one example is Holland and Belgium and Holland is an economic powerhouse. Belgium is a bureaucratic basketcase. Um, and the, there are lots of other examples, North Island and South Island or other examples. Um, but the bottom line is that access to this information is life changing when it comes to finance.

Yeah. So again, I’m going to say folks, I want you to understand, um, I have done this for decades. Uh, I have believed this and put this in place. Uh, I’ve been able to produce considerably more. There is such great wisdom. It’s not just about cranking out money. Obviously there is such great wisdom in how and why and what it does for you and how, again, this, I wholeheartedly believe it’s driven me closer to God, uh, as well, um, and understanding all this. But if you just take it down to the most basic thing that we’re saying that is that there is a process that has benefited Jews around the world by having this wisdom and putting this in place. And I don’t know how many times we could point to. I mean, it’s every single generation of the Jews. There’s been some sort of, you know, um, uh, you know, uh, attack or, or, or, you know, downturns for them. Uh, but if you take a look at captivity, just the captivities every single time, they’ve prospered every single time. So for, for you folks listening or watching this, I want you to understand this. Isn’t, you know, some ridiculous piece of information on how you’re going to go gain the stock market and, and make tons of money. This is stuff that will change the way you look at your finances forever, and it will impact the way you handle your finance

And also make you see opportunities, things you could do. And as we, I have to leave now, we’ve got to the end, but, uh, but next time we get together, we should really talk more also about, uh, you know, why these things do work. In other words, does God really want people to be rich? Doesn’t God have more important things on his mind? These, in other words, how you think about the ultimate issues of life really does impact how you live that life. And, uh, and that’s true in the family areas.

And it’s true, in the finance area and why it is that God does care about your money as you should. It’s all part of the story, but at any rate, Chris, I really appreciate the chance to talk to you. And you and I have the same heart to bring the same benefits to as many people as we possibly can. And it’s an honor and a privilege to stand shoulder to shoulder with you in this work. Thank you. It is so great to have you on, and again, I want to make sure everybody knows, go to rabbidaniellapin.com, the Financial Prosperity Collection plugin. LoCurto get your discount, um, and this will change your life. Rabbi, Thanks again. I appreciate it. We will have you on again soon. There’s so much stuff that we need to discuss, but thanks again for doing this. Great. See you. Same here. Same here.

I appreciate it. And I look forward to when some of this craziness actually will allow us to meet again in person. Amen. Amen. Well, folks, there, you have it. What a powerful discussion, powerful interview. I hope that you have enjoyed this as much as I have, and obviously we, if you guys liked this, let us know. We want to have Rabbi on again in the future. Uh, but man, do not miss out. I know I’m going to say it again. Go to his website, rabbiDaniel, lapin.com uh, financial prosperity collection and plug it in, LoCurto into the program and get this thing. Start moving on this, make this happen. This is something that I’ve done for a very long time, and it has been powerful in my life. I’m stressing this because I know some of you are going, Oh, I know this stuff.

No you don’t. If you’ve not done his specific stuff, I’m telling you, you’re missing out. And right now is the time to get this going. As we’re looking at a difficult time and a financial time on our country and all that having this wisdom has given me so much greater security and so much greater ability and so much greater opportunity as well in my life and my business everywhere. So I can’t say it enough, make sure that you get the financial prosperity collections. Well, again, hopefully this has helped you. We hope that you take this information, change your leadership, change your business, change your life, and join us on the next episode.


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Growing up in a small logging town near Lake Tahoe, California, Chris learned a strong work ethic at home from his full-time working mom. He began his leadership and training career in the corporate world, starting but at E'TRADE.